Hyfuel-assist automobiles -- 8 do-it-yourself systems in the news '07-'08

BUFFALO, Mo. -- A local man's gadget may help people get more miles per gallon of gasoline in their vehicles. Ed Hula is a football coach in Buffalo, and a former science teacher.

A lot of people use their garage to fix a car that has a problem. Hula has been working in his garage to try to help fix a worldwide problem: the energy crisis.

“We've got to do something to help one another out, because the middle and lower class people are really feeling the bite of the gas prices right now,” said Hula.

So, after a trial and error, and testing a few prototypes on his own vehicles, Hula came up with what he calls the hydrogen-assist generator.

“We've got stainless steel plates in here, and when you conduct electricity through them stainless steel plates, it takes them molecules -- you got two molecules of hydrogen and one oxygen -- and it takes and separates them into gas,” he said.

Hula says burning the gas created through this process, called electrolysis, can give your car better gas mileage. He's started a business and hooked up his generator to about 30 vehicles so far.

His customers have reported between 28 percent and 72 percent better gas mileage. Jim Lister is a former mechanic who stands behind Hula's generator.

“I've only had mine on about 100 miles, but I just checked the gas mileage this morning and I got 5.1 miles per gallon better than what I was, plus I have more power,” said Lister.

“I'm telling people, if they want one of these units, to buy one from me first, copy it, and make your own,” he said.

Rick Hughlett, owner of Rick's Automotive in Springfield, says the hydrogen-assist generator could work, but the additional gases in the system could confuse a vehicle's oxygen sensor and make the car use more gas.

“That oxygen sensor is always trying to find 14.7-to-1 air/fuel ratio,” said Hughlett.

Hydrogen is highly flammable but Hula says his generator is just as safe or safer than the gas in your car.

Hughlett says a backfire or putting it in the wrong spot could cause the container to explode.

“Any time you're installing something under the hood of a car, you need to consult a professional,” he said.

“The principle, the idea, is good, and we do need these back yard inventors, because that may be the one that solves the energy crisis. But step lightly,” said Hughlett.

Hula is selling his hydrogen-assist generators for $600. Another Ozarks man who has also come up with a similar system can be contacted at cgrosshart@sbcglobal.net You can also buy information to build a similar system online at the website, water4gas.com

Brown said he shut his fuel injection system down and created the system that can use any type of water with a small amount of gas. He said the car is getting just fuel vapor.

"When you separate the water from the oxygen from the hydrogen, it cooks and it cooks down to a brown," Brown said. "We're not having any waste product off of it. Everything is consumed and burned."

Local 6 showed video of Brown filling up his vehicle with water and then driving around.

Brown said any profit he makes from his invention will go toward helping missionaries around the world.

"I've just been asking for a way, for the Lord to show me to raise money rapidly and I started to working on this idea," Brown said.

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ST. PETERSBURG — Dave Hansen thinks he has found a way to cut the cost of gas in half.

In fact, he said his month-old idea prompted a Tampa Bay investor to offer him a seven-figure advance for the rights of his invention. But Hansen turned that offer down.

He said his new hydrogen-supplemental fuel system is not about fame or fortune, though it doubles a vehicle's mileage per gallon. It's about fishing.

"After paying about 500 to 600 bucks to catch four or five trout, I thought there has to be a better way," said the 47-year-old retired business owner who is now a computer consultant. "My motivation was to go fishing and save money."

The rising cost of fueling his 24-foot Shamrock fishing boat had become a snag, and it didn't help that his main automobile for towing his boat was a gas-guzzling 1997 GMC Yukon.

Hansen did some research on alternative ways of powering vehicle engines and found hydrogen to be an often attempted but not so successful method.

That's when he started testing how hydrogen would work in his Yukon. After buying $600 worth of parts for engine modifications and a month's worth of time, he says the Yukon has gone from 8 miles per gallon in the city and 12.5 on the highway to about 18 in the city and 26 on the highway.

"Now, I don't pay $4 a gallon. I pay $2 a gallon," Hansen said. "I've got my big truck that I want to keep and I get the same mileage that you get with a Toyota Camry."

He said engines lose 30 to 40 percent of gasoline energy through exhaust, but the hydrogen supplement allows his engine to burn 100 percent of the gasoline.

Hansen added a device to the Yukon that creates hydrogen and combines it with the oxygen input to the engine, which helps the motor maximize gasoline performance. His system requires a small amount of distilled water to power the hydrogen generator and uses distilled vinegar to keep the generator's plates from corroding.

Additional gauges monitor the efficiency of the generator and help the system work well in Florida summer temperatures.

"The motor now runs cooler and with less carbon buildup, which ultimately will increase engine life," Hansen said. "The system has multiple built-in safeguards to make sure that the driver can operate the vehicle without concern."

Lev Gelb, an associate professor of chemistry at Washington University in St. Louis, who has worked for years on hydrogen storage, said he is skeptical of Hansen's claim.

"The energy in the battery also comes from the engine, so all of the energy actually comes from the gasoline," Gelb said.

"This approach can't work because everything is still limited by the car engine efficiency, so I think that his claim of nearly doubling the vehicle mileage is bogus."

Hansen said scientists' and car engineers' doubt is relevant but limited by what they have studied.

"The science is there, but there isn't a focus on existing vehicles," Hansen said. "Everyone looks at new vehicles to produce hydrogen."

Albert Rawlins, 75, who recently met Hansen while playing golf, said he is willing to try a hydrogen fuel system on his 1995 Chevrolet Impala, especially because he still sends gas money to two daughters living in Ohio.

"If you don't know computers, the best mechanic in the world can't do this," Rawlins said of his amazement of seeing Hansen's modified Yukon engine. "I told Dave, 'I'm willing to do this in order to make a statement' and the first thing I'm doing is taking a road trip to Ohio."

Even with regular compliments from people like Rawlins, Hansen said he still isn't sure he wants to pursue a patent and open a business. Instead, he has posted his findings on his Web site, htgsystems.com, and he will allow feedback to determine his next move.

"I'll let the public decide. I'm not doing this to make money. I just wanted to go fishing, and I thought it was a shame that nobody was doing anything about this."

(KAAL) -- Thanks to one local high school senior's invention, we may one day find relief at the pump.

It's taken him two years of work, but it's finally here. His invention could lower your fuel bills by 30%.

He built a battery-powered device that can actually turn water into energy and lower the amount of gas you need by about 23%.

"It'll lower emissions, clean up the environment, and it will save you money." (soli)

You may have heard of hydrogen cars. Soli’s invention attaches to your motor and uses both hydrogen and oxygen for energy.

So far, he's only tested his invention on lawn mower engines that don't move. He plans to test it on moving engines, and then in cars.

He and four friends re-designed the engine and design of a car so it gets 866 miles to the gallon!

The car isn't safe for the road, but the combination of that engine, Soli’s invention, and a safer frame could revolutionize the way we drive.

"I'm feeling great. I didn't know it would get this far. The project just seemed to get bigger and bigger," says Soli.

Within the last month, he won two international awards and $2,500 for his work. He says this is only the beginning.

The first closely replicated Bob Boyce Style Electrolyzers are beginning to report results in the Watercar, Hydroxy, and Workingwatercar yahoo egroups. Several replicators have reported 40-60% mpg increases with Bob Boyce and Smack Booster modified versions of the Bob Boyce System.

Most of these replications are using "brute force" electrolysis meaning that the three frequency toroidal transformers are not yet being utilized for maximum gain. One experimenter name Houston has reported a steady 21 l/min output from his 49 Cell Boyce System using various wiring options and has reported 40-60% mpg increases.

Several Smack Booster replicators are reporting similar 40-60% increases in their mpg when using the system as a booster to their gas fueled engines. These increases require adjustments to Oxygen sensors in modern cars to compensate for HHO gas utilization. Many systems will regard the extra O in the fuel mix as a too lean condition and force more gas fuel into the engine which negates the gains from using Hydroxy.

This scenario accounts for many reports of no gain at all, to as little as 10-20% increase in mileage in contrast to the 40-60% mileage increases reported by several. It seems that fuel/air sensors and electronics are the source of the variation in performance results. The groups offer numerous workarounds for these problems.

The upshot of all these things, is that the Water Car era seems to be upon us. At least the "Do It Yourself"-ers have found significant answers for themselves in these groups. Businesses are emerging from the forums as DIYers offer assistance to one another with various parts of the systems to which their particular expertise gives rise. The situation is not unlike the early stages of the personal computer revolution.

Thanks to PESN's coverage, inquiries and new group members are arriving daily from around the world into these forums. Successful replications are being report as often. Though a complete Boyce replication with 60-101 cells and three phase pulsing has not yet been tested and reported; there are a number of people nearing that point.

By comparison one might liken the current stage as the Computer Kit stage with only a couple complete turnkey systems available. Lets call it the pre-Apple stage. Good thing oil is useful for other things besides production of gasoline, otherwise one might want to divest oneself of investments in oil even though its current price is $100 a barrel. One last push for profits from a (thankfully) dying gasoline industry, buggy whips anyone?

Bob recently revealed in posts to a yahoo watercar egroup that his system uses sequence relaxation and phase tweaking to control hydroxy production volume. Though the result of this looks like frequency shifting to a frequency counter; that is only because of the lack of pulses during the relaxation part of the wave forms. You might think of it as burst frequency modulation instead of frequency modulation.

The phase tweaking adjusts the relationship of the three frequencies to "fine tune". Bob also detailed the method of setup for initial tuning after which little adjustment is need. Here is the quote...

My favorite implementation was to use pressure transducer output to vary the relaxation delay between pulse string sequences. If looked at on a frequency counter, it would look as though the frequencies of all 3 channels were being changed, but that is only because a frequency counter counts pulses over a set period of time. The pulse streams out of a HexController has series of pulses that are in fixed relation to one another with fixed intervals. Once a cell stack is tuned to "frequency", which is actually a specific pulse train timing, that timing changes very little, and only in response to electrolyte density.

The pulse durations are hardly ever changed once they are locked onto optimum for a given cell stack system.

The timing of each series of pulse sequences results in predefined sets of pulse intervals within each sequence, and a delay between sequences. These relaxation times can be adjusted slightly to vary production. This is MUCH more effective at varying production than varying pulse width without wasting power. So we can look at it as slight variations in phase between the individual phases within a pulse sequence, which I called "twist", and larger opportunities of missing pulse time (relaxation time) between pulse sequence sets.

I hope I'm not confusing anyone here, please try to bear with me. i am not always very good at explaining things in ways that everyone can understand.

Frequency is set by not having any phase shift (twist) or sequence delays (relaxation time) set, and tuning the unit timing for maximum production at the least power consumption. After timing is set, then the sensors can be brought online. The temperature sensor provides feedback to adjust pulse timing (not pulse duration) slightly. This can compensate for density changes in the electrolyte.

With any given jump in pulse timing due to temperature compensation, we can fine tune operation for that given timing by adjusting the phase twist slightly. So we really want to leave that variable alone, and use it solely as a means of "fine tuning" for operational changes due to temperature and electrolyte conductivity.

Relaxation time between pulse sequences can be adjusted to control volume of hydroxy gas production on the fly. This can use pressure, flow, and demand (throttle position) all as inputs to determine optimum hydroxy gas production levels.

I should also add... Anyone looking at a frequency counter would mistakenly assume that frequency is changing while adjusting the relaxation time, when really what is changing is the space between sequences, and to a much lesser degree the phase relationship between the 3 channels. (Ref.)

Franky Chahyadi's motorbike used to travel between 30 and 35 kilometers on one liter of premium fuel. But since he started using an electrolyzer, a liter of premium fuel can keep his motorbike going for 50 to 55 kilometers. And it's not just his motorbike; his Mercedes C18 is also performing more economically.

Before, a liter of fuel was just enough to travel five kilometers, but with an electrolyzer, his Mercedes travels nine. In 2006, after undertaking numerous tests, Joko found a simple way to separate the hydrogen and oxygen in water and channel the hydrogen to the engine. This can save between 70 and 100 percent of fuel used in motor vehicles.

The shape of the device is quite simple. A coil is wrapped around a plastic soy sauce bottle and is used to transmit an electric current beneath the bottle. The coil is connected to the battery. A pipe is attached to the top of the bottle to connect the engine to the carburetor.

"When the engine is running, it will automatically produce hydrogen and this causes an explosion in the engine," Joko said. "The chemical formula for water is H2O. If this is subjected to an electric current, it will produce H2 and O2," Joko said.

About five seconds after the electric current, gas bubbles out of the water. After the gas has been channeled to the trial engine, it explodes and can drive the crankshaft five meters or more.

"This is just from using one piston. If we use three pistons to drive the crankshaft, it can break," Joko said. He chose a transparent soy sauce bottle because it was cheap, easy to find and safe.

"The transparency can help us check the water's condition and whether or not it is still clear," Joko said.

In order to produce good hydrogen, the water should be neutral or rainwater, and it only needs to be changed once a month. The use of tap water can cause problems because it includes other substances that inhibit the production of hydrogen. Joko installed the electrolyzer in his car. Joko said burning hydrogen was good and its octane rating reached 130. This compares with the rating of premium fuel, which is only in the 80s, and Pertamax, with a rating of 94. With the electrolyzer, the burning of fuel is more efficient and the power of the engine is stronger, he said. He said the more efficient burning decreases carbon emissions. Oil use also becomes more economical. It is cleaner because it partly emits water in place of carbon.

"Consequently, water will always come out of vehicles with electrolyzers. When the engine is used for the first time in the morning, the system expels water," Joko said.

To replace the raw materials used for installation in a motorcycle, the customer is charged Rp 75,000 (US$8) for motorbikes and Rp 150,000 for cars.

"This is not about profit. The money being charged is only used to buy the components," said Joko, adding more than 1,000 vehicles have used his invention.

Since he has no commercial interest, Joko said he did not want to patent his invention. He hopes people will make the device themselves since its construction is simple and the materials easy to find. Joko is further innovating in trying to develop an engine that uses water as its fuel. He has changed the working mechanisms of a lawn mower engine so the machine can only use exploding hydrogen and not fuel.

"Using 10 soy sauce bottles each containing 0.5 liters of water, the lawn mower engine keeps running," he said. "I want to try this on my motorcycle just using water."

Joko believes the fuel crisis will be solved with the creation of a water-powered engine.

We finally saw again inventor Daniel D. Dingel after about a year of having sort of drifted away from each other. He was at the ABS-CBN trying to win converts to his hydrocar that, according to his fantastic claim, runs on nothing but water!

Dingel was being interviewed in the "Bantay Kalikasan" program over DZMM by media environmentalist Bong Faustino together with Rudy Lantano, who was discussing on phone patch his concoction of gasoline mixed with alcohol to make it cheaper and environment-friendly.

With the way Dingel and his troupe reacted when I walked into the DZMM booth, I doubt if he had any inkling that he was to see my shadow again that day -- particularly at a time when he is making a sales pitch.

Without telling him, Bong invited me to sit with Dingel, I sensed, to balance his presentation.

WITH the previous program "Jeepney ni Erap" anchored by Korina Sanchez having eaten into Bong’s time slot and with his loads of ads to shoot down the listener’s ear, I lost no time in driving home my main point.

Sitting across the desk from Dingel, I reiterated my old challenge to him: If it is true that his car runs on nothing but water, let’s prove it to the whole world by driving it in a supervised 1,000-kilometer demonstration cruise up and down the South Luzon Expressway, from Magallanes to Calamba and back.

I made this suggestion last year, because of lingering suspicion that Dingel’s red Toyota Corolla (UGA 222) still secretly uses gasoline aside from his electrolysis gadget that produces hydrogen gas to feed into his engine.

Even granting it has a secret gas tank, the gasoline (or whatever extra fuel it is) would run out in 1,000 kilometers and reduce the car to exclusive dependence on the water fuel used by Dingel’s invention.

SUCH suspicion of a secret extra fuel is not without basis. At some demonstrations, some engineers checked the exhaust and sniffed the smoke coming out. It smelled of gasoline fumes!

At the Department of Science and Technology, scientists went beyond their noses and actually subjected the emission to scientific tests. They reported traces of carbon oxides, the type one would find in burned gasoline.

Water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen, nothing more, nothing less. Where did the carbon oxides (oxidized or burned carbon) come from?

To cut short the endless debate about a secret gas tank, we asked Dingel last year, and we repeated the suggested yesterday on the air, that we take the car on a 1,000-km run, continuously feeding it nothing but water.

DINGEL refused, worrying aloud about the monumental security problem involved in having him and the monitors driving up and down the expressway exposed to the world.

Maybe he had a point. Although he is thousands of miles from Sulu, who knows the naughty Abu Sayyaf might just plant a land mind in his tracks nga naman! Or some Lost Command might hijack him and his precious invention!

At that point I was hoping the gods of ABS-CBN would come rushing through the door to assure Dingel that if he would agree to such a road test, they would guarantee his safety and that of his invention.

IF I owned ABS-CBN, I would make such an offer to settle the issue once and for all.

Imagine the media scoop, the spectacle: Dingel’s red hydrocar cruising down the expressway accompanied by a mean-looking security phalanx and the network’s Radyo Patrol reporting live a kilometer-per-kilometer report on the progress of the road test.

President Estrada, besieged as he is with price issues, would do well to order the presidential security unit to help protect the car that might yet free us from the clutches of the oil cartel. During the run, it won’t hurt if Press Secretary Dong Puno, an ABS-CBN alumnus, slips in a Dingel paragraph or two in his news briefing.

The other media won’t be able to ignore the event. Advertisers would scramble to get into the bandwagon. Mother Lily might sign a contract for exclusive rights to the life story of Dingel. The possibilities are endless!

BUT Bong Faustino does not own ABS-CBN and could not commit, right then and there, the attention and the resources of the giant network. So Dingel got away, again, with that lame excuse of lack of security.

The truth is that Dingel never looked like he had a security problem. During those times when he would still talk to me because I was writing about him and his gadget, we would meet at the McDonald’s at BF Homes in Parañaque and chat endlessly while his car is parked blatantly in front of the burgerhouse.

On some occasions, we would even leave his car in the McDo parking lot and use my van to go some place. We had no guard for the car or for his person. Nobody touched his Corolla.

The car is an easy target, even for amateurs. It has markings all over its body announcing that it is Dingel’s water-powered car.

When I saw the car again yesterday at ABS-CBN, it was still the same demo unit. And Dingel was still the same salesman with the same spiel about fantastic dollar offers from some foreign entities scrambling to get first crack at his revolutionary invention.

ASIDE from one ever faithful sidekick whose name I cannot now recall, there is now a small coterie of new converts who look like businessmen smelling of snake oil.

While Dingel was demonstrating his hydrogen-loaded popgun shooting a canister with a loud bang into the air, one of his new devotees told us that their group has convinced somebody in Malacañang, somebody surnamed De Guzman, to have the armed forces adopt the Dingel invention into their motor vehicles and navy craft.

As a taxpayer, I should have butted in with "Teka muna!" -- but what the heck. If our countrymen cannot have peace, jobs and food, they can use some entertainment.

WHILE Dingel was demonstrating his hydrogen popgun in the ABS-CBN parking lot, this businessman who told me about the armed forces deal was trying to explain to me how the hydrocar works.

I did not have the heart to tell him that I’ve been there before him. But when he kept referring to Dingel’s device as a "nuclear reactor," I simply had to react.

I pointedly told him that the demo car did not have a nuclear reactor. I had to explain to him what a nuclear reactor was and that Dingel’s contraption did not touch the nuclei of the hydrogen and the oxygen taken from the water.

This is a simple case of electrolysis, I said, the type of experiment we did in high school science class. An electric current is passed through the water and the water is broken up into its hydrogen and oxygen components.

IN the case of Dingel, he feeds the resulting hydrogen and oxygen into the combustion chamber of the retooled Toyota engine. With the spark plugs triggered, the gaseous mixture explodes, sending the pistons moving and the shafts turning as in a conventional car.

The difference is that instead of the vaporized gasoline-air mixture in a regular car, Dingel uses hydrogen with traces of oxygen. He gets the explosive hydrogen and the combustible oxygen directly from the electrolysis done with his device.

In many similar experiments and inventions in Europe and the United States, they first store the hydrogen gas generated and feed it into the engine as needed. Dingel pipes it directly from the electrolysis process into the engine without storing it first.

ONE of the sources of doubt on the part of DOST scientists is Dingel’s using an ordinary 12-volt car battery to initiate and continue the process of generating hydrogen gas under the hood.

Dingel displays a certification that he uses only 5 amperes to do that, whereas many incredulous engineers say we need more than a thousand times that to accomplish the same work.

They also cite the law of thermodynamics saying in effect that we cannot create matter or energy. They cannot accept that Dingel, with an input of only 12 volts, can generate an output of enormous energy to run a regular combustion engine. How did he create that much energy, they ask.

That’s when they slip in the suggestion that he is probably also using gasoline from a secret tank.

THIS brings us back to our ultimate test: Let’s just run the car for 1,000 kms. on nothing but water, stopping briefly every 100 kilometers to check its vital signs. If there is some other fuel secretly being fed into it, as its critics allege, this hidden fuel should run out in 1,000 kms.

The big question is why Dingel is scared of a public test that will, theoretically, prove precisely his point that it’s just water running his car.

Imagine watering the garden, then turning the hose into your petrol tank and filling up the car.

It has been a holy grail for an age, a water-based fuel. Well, that technology may already be here, claims small Kiwi company Bios Fuel.

But scientists remain sceptical and say an engine running on water defies the laws of physics.

Bios Fuel began with a concept in 1996, as founder Steve Ryan was tinkering with an old motorbike engine in an Auckland garage.

He started to believe that burning the hydrogen contained in water in a combustion engine was not just science fiction.

Two years ago Mr Ryan went public, running a 350cc motorbike on water for the 60 Minutes television show.

Now Bios Fuel is preparing to drive 3000 kilometres from Darwin to Adelaide on a blend of waste oil and water, as part of the Panasonic World Solar Challenge.

Mr Ryan says the water-based fuel allows hydrogen to be housed safely in water and released.

It is blended with waste oil for lubrication and a bonding agent, but the power comes from the water.

Waikato University senior engineering lecturer Mike Duke is deeply sceptical of the claims.

He says the problem is that the amount of energy needed to extract energy from water is greater than the energy produced.

There was "a lot of pseudo science out there," Dr Duke said. "They're claiming something that I don't buy, but if they can prove it to me, then I'll buy them a beer."

But Mr Ryan says the fuel runs via a normal combustion system - it's the delivery system that is the key and must remain under wraps.

The Solar Challenge will demonstrate the potential of alternative fuel technology to operate in an extreme environment, says company spokesman Cam Feast.

"It gives us the opportunity to show that recycling second- and third-generation waste is an option when emulsified with water."

A battered old 1989 Land Cruiser with 400,000 kilometres on the clock will be used for the challenge.

"Water doesn't have to be spring-fed, it can be waste water, from your shower or sink, rainwater from the gutter, or seawater.

Diesel engines can be run on very high percentages of water and small amounts of waste oil for lubrication. It requires no electricity, no heat, and emissions consist mainly of water vapour."

Mr Ryan says scepticism from the scientific community and the public remains the main barrier to water-fuel technology.

He says there has been more support from the United States, and that is where Bio Fuels will focus its efforts.

"New Zealand will still be the home base, but there's a need to go where the market is."

This is what I have seen over the past four months, sorry the HAFC was not good, in fact so bad I quit, after a lost/cost of around $20,000.00 invested.

Many got good mileage at first but all have problems show up, some with in a couple of days.

We got better mileage in two cars (32 to 43MPG) and Then got 71 MPG and 81 MPG up from 32 MPG stock on two other cars, and took two vans from 12 MPG to 19/20MPG.

BUT not one would hold it, all faded away with in a few days to a week and all got problems, like stuck idle motors (2), boiling water and gunk in the motors,(4) two got plugged air filters, one HAFC blew apart and sprayed chemical all over the engine.

One van is a 87 MiniVan and has no computer to fight us but it loses it mileage with in a week and we have to clean and renew its water and chemicals.
It seems we are cracking the chemical not the water.

Now I sure you will say I do not know what I am doing, perhaps, I was trained by one of their best trainers and certified as a trainer/teacher myself, and IF I did not know what I was doing how did I get such high mileage's figures??

I quit the company when I saw all of the last cars: two vans and four cars and the problems we were getting, two idle motors stuck, three cars with idle problems, boiling water in one car, soft hoses, hoses slipping off fittings, a car when it lost a hose and sprayed chemical all over the engine, heard from a dealer melt downs was common, heard from Mike Holler on a tech line call how someone had to buy a new transmission when a HAFC leaked and ate a hole though the aluminum case, blame was placed on installer, bet he did not know how soft the crap hoses get at engine temps, might rethink the cause of that failure...NO safety to cut power to cell if it runs dry, no way for car to run right with a downed cell....

I for one can not afford to buy someone a new motor after this system eats the motor. I sure can not afford to buy EVERYONE a new motor...

Beware of any that call for lots of chemical, (KOH, NaOH (lye)) use double bubblers to help catch any before going to your motor. It does not stay in the tanks but can get into your motor as gas, I will post pictures of a Bubblier that contains this gunk and how it coats the walls to show you of this problem.

What every unit you get if they do not tell you to control the main relay with the Fuel Pump relay, be worried what else they did not tell you correctly.

NEVER NEVER set it up to turn on any other way BUT so it comes on after the motor is running and is turned off automatically with the motor.

I know of three cases where this was NOT done, one burst his air cleaner, another broke his intake manifold and the third one was lucky his battery was dead that morning as his ran as long as the battery was able to power it, one spark and good by truck.

Many cells start making gas within seconds and it can fill the air cleaner before you get started, add a slight misfire and BOOM.

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008

EUREKA SPRINGS -- Are the high prices of fuel getting to you??Do you cringe whenever you pull up to the pumps, or when the electric bill arrives in the mail?

If the answer is yes, it's a safe bet most Americans share your concern.

But Jeff Falk has a different way of dealing with the current economic meltdown.

The generator in his shop runs on tap water.

"This is a technology that goes against the grain of world economics, from the point of view of the oil companies," said Falk, whose has designed and built everything from race cars to aircraft to speed boats. "Anybody who really thinks the government is going to embrace this is probably wrong. They'd probably lock you up first."

Nonetheless, Falk has done it. Starting five years ago after he read about it, he has built an electricity producing generator that runs on hydrogen rather than fossil fuels.

Hydrogen safer than you think

"There is a lot of propaganda about how dangerous hydrogen is," Falk said. "Not true. You can't approach it like fossil fuels, there are different rules. Unlike fossil fuels, which are heavier than air and pool, creating potential explosive hazards, hydrogen is the lightest element there is. It disperses. It will go right through the ceiling if you don't contain it."

Falk points out another vital distinction between hydrogen and fossil fuels.

"Burning hydrogen produces no radiant heat," he said. "It's the hydrocarbon emissions from burning gasoline, for instance, that burn you if you get in its way. The hydrocarbon emissions are also the source of its pollution."

Falk uses high-frequency DC/AC hybrid pulsed electrolyzers to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from ordinary tap water.

An electrolyzer runs a current through the water, splitting the H2O molecules into hydrogen and oxygen.

Anyone can electrolyze

Many will remember the familiar high school science experiment where wires are attached to any two-poled battery, then into two water-filled containers. As the current splits the molecules, one bottle will fill with oxygen, the other with hydrogen.

This is a little more complex.

Falk's electrolyzers do the same thing, using a small current, high frequency and high voltages to initiate the process.

Once the electrolyzer begins producing hydrogen, the generator produces enough power to fuel itself and more.

Because hydrogen burns so quickly, steam is channeled to slow down the burn.

"You couldn't run appliances off this generator at this point," Falk said. "The amperage is too low. But I'm refining it. My goal it to have the power company come out and remove their pole and then go away, because I won't need them anymore."

For every .75 amps going into the generator, 22 come out.

Falk said ideally two generators would be needed, so that one could be serviced from time to time.

Dinosaur snot unattractive fuel source

"Why do we want to keep pumping dinosaur snot out of the ground and burning it?" Falk asked. "How primitive can you get? Why don't we just leave the rest of it in the ground until we can find something better to do with it than that?"

Falk speculated units sufficient to power home use could be mass produced for about $7,500 each.

"Look at this," Falk said, holding a temperature sensor near the generator's exhaust. "Right now the exhaust is 228 degrees. If this were a gasoline generator, the temperature would be more like 800 degrees."

Falk said the his model generator uses about a pint of water an hour to produce 7,500 watts of electricity.

DIY possible

"Most of this equipment I got off the Internet, the parts and the info on how to do it," Falk said. "Eventually I can get off the grid without having to live by candlelight, and save money too."

In addition to the water-powered generator, Falk is working on an improved, highly efficient solar panel design which he expects to have up and running shortly.

Video on Falk's generator and other projects can be seen on-line on YouTube at www.youtube.com/SolgenLLC.